"Lets Just Drive" (lets-just-drive)
12/05/2013 at 12:40 • Filed to: None
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"Lets Just Drive" (lets-just-drive)
12/05/2013 at 12:40 • Filed to: None | 2
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Just gotta say, I really prefer the styling on the pre and post facelift S197 to the softened, Eurofriendly looks of the S550. I like the technology under the new car and the engine line-up, too (current and pending arrival) and while I'd never buy an automatic 10-speed, I'm glad the six is sticking around.
I just wanted to share that somewhere that it wouldn't become a target for FP trolls.
offroadkarter
> Lets Just Drive
12/05/2013 at 12:52 |
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I will wait to see it in person, but right now I think I like the S197's better, the 13-14's the most.
But I remember that the 1994 caused a lot of controversy since it was so radically different from the looks of the fox body.
MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
> Lets Just Drive
12/05/2013 at 12:59 |
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Wise to say it here lol.
I think that you could be a big winner then.
I know a lot of people are going to rush to upgrade and there should be a swarm of used ones on the market. Almost a guarantee for anyone expiring a Mustang lease once these come out. You could get a really good deal on a replacement for your current one with less miles.
oldirtybootz
> Lets Just Drive
12/05/2013 at 12:59 |
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Bear with me here. I was born in 1991, so I grew up with SN-95s and leftover Fox bodies. My mother worked at Ford since before I was born, so cars were always a part of my life, but I wasn't THAT into them outside of my Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars. Fast forward to the debut of the Playstation, when I realized I was awful at Gran Turismo and thus became less interested in cars.
In the 6th grade, my father bought a 1969 Camaro and it was as if a light switch in my head was suddenly flipped on. Cars became my life after that, but at that point I prefered Chevy to Ford and the Camaro to the Mustang.
Not long after he bought the Camaro, Nintendo's Gamecube came out and a friend and I rented Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2. It was the first racing game I actually enjoyed, and ths 2000 Cobra R made a huge impression on me. I can't remeber what exactly it was about it, but I fell in love with the New Edge Mustang. I day dreamed in class about buying a silver GT.
Then the real ah-hah moment came. My mother's dealership got their first Mach 1 in, an Oxford White 5-speed. I sat in the seat, adjusted it to it's highest point, but still couldn't see over the Shaker hood. That didn't matter as I was smitten. No car has ever made more of an impression on me, or made me instantly fall in love like that car.
From that point on, I knew the Mustang was my favorite car, especially the SN95s. I HATED the S197 when it debuted, it's retro styling being such a departue from the New Edge that I still loved. Those 05-09 cars eventually became one of my favorite body styles though.
So the point of this long winded story is that I grew up with the more modern Mustangs and always longed for a proper new Mustang. The S550 is just that and my Dart will absolutely get traded on an Ecoboost in a few years.
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> MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
12/05/2013 at 13:01 |
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I just want the 3.7 or Coyote... not the 4.0L Cologne in my 2006.
Also, fewer kilometers would be nice but I'm only at like 70K on the clock.
6shelBfan6
> Lets Just Drive
12/05/2013 at 13:09 |
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The only thing that bothers me about the new car, is that the it has lost some of what makes it a Mustang by Ford's emphasis on making the car more European. The Euro jurnos can hate all they want to, saying the car is fat, the solid axle is ancient, and the retro styling needs to go. America, and many European enthusiasts, loves the car for exactly what it is. Sure, there are the American trolls that hate on the same things as the Euro jurnos, but that crowd is not interested in a Mustang regardless. To me it seems like the execs were more concerned with pleasing these offshore jurnos and haters than staying true to the owners and enthusiasts that have given the car the popularity it has had for the last 50 years. Through my limited personal experience with European enthusiasts, I have found that they love the car just as in America, and the biggest draw to them is the uniqueness. If you want a lightweight, Euro-styled sports car you have plenty of options to blend into the crowd. Give them the American muscle car. Keyword being 'American.' Many buyers want to stand out from Europe's countless M3s, Toyobarus, and GTI's. Give them the option of the Mustang as it was, an American muscle car. Not the Eurostang. Sure, throw the turbo 4 in some of the cars, but keep it's uniqueness. As a lifelong Mustang enthusiast and owner, I, in a way feel betrayed by Ford's approach to the new car.
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6shelBfan6
> Lets Just Drive
12/05/2013 at 13:14 |
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Go for the 5.0. I test drove a 3.7 with the 6 speed, and while there is nothing wrong with it, the V6 is bland, even with 300hp. You won't regret the Coyote.
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6shelBfan6
> oldirtybootz
12/05/2013 at 13:17 |
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Some people don't understand why I feel the way I do, but to me the SN95, especially the later Cobra, is one of the most perfect automotive designs(even if the V6 cars are horrid). Clean, understated, but still aggressive.
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> oldirtybootz
12/05/2013 at 13:18 |
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I'm a little over 10 years ahead of you so while you were playing with Matchbox cars, my 1988 GT 5.0 HO was my reality.
I absolutely fell in love with that car. It helps that my mom, she raised me, had a Mustang when she was a young thing and she instilled that love in my early. Her cherry red pony was the reason he sang about slowing it down... even if her name wasn't Sally. Molly is close enough.
I have always loved Mustangs. I loved the '73. I even love the II. Fastbacks, Mach's, GT 350 through 500 and on and on... the only Mustang I don't love is one with a roof that comes off. The Terminator, it makes my willy wiggle. Foxes can be built into track or strip monsters that slap the "Mustangs suck" crowd in the face with their big horsey cock. And in honesty, there are even a few top-down Ponies which came out of Shelby that I'd be okay with.
I love Mustangs and I accept that a lot of people just fucking hate them. Most people who hate ponies don't really know why, they're just buying into the idea that it's cool to hate iconic things.
So I'm not surprised that the S550 has generated a lot of buzz, negative and positive. Look, every single effing time Jalop runs a Mustang article on the FP, about any kind of Mustang, it's the one topic that's guaranteed to generate more hate filled trolls than an anti-feminist comment on Jezebel. A lot of people think it's cool to hate Mustangs... and they're usually the same people who hate Camaros and Trans Ams and virtually any "Muscle or Pony" car to come out after the '60's. You ask me; that's their problem... not mine.
I love Mustangs. But I also love E30 M3's and can hipster a Saab with the best of them. But I also like FWD hot hatches and boring, stately cruisers. It's because I haven't narrowed my mind like so many Mustang owners do, like so many brand loyalists do (and a heads-up to you Hipster types; you're just buying a brand which is pretending not to be one... you're not special, you're the consumerist version of a Hippie and that's not a reason to flaunt your tail feathers) and it's because of those closed minds on both sides that the idea it's okay to be a pro or anti Mustang elitist. I'd counter that being an elitist in any regard makes a person an asshole.
And I do like the S550. I do.
It's just new and will take some getting used to. The lines are there, smoothed out to create new and mass appeal. This was what made the Mustang II such a huge success and if there's one thing the Mustang can do that most other brands won't is it will adjust to meet the times... it's not some rigid, inflexible concept. That's another reason so-called purists chose to hate the Mustang, because it didn't have the good graces to die young. Propose the same about an anti-Mustang'er's parents and see what happens. Hypocrisy runs rampant. The idea that it would be better if it had died irks me. I'm pretty sure that no Mustang has had Hitler like aspirations, so I just don't know where it's coming from.
I love Mustangs and I like the S550. I'll probably grow to appreciate it more over the coming months and years. Once I see one in the metal, I'll probably fall in love because as we all know; while a picture is worth a thousand words, the real thing is worth a million.
I've had two and I'll have more. One day, maybe an S550 but right now, today, I just hope the S550 comes out and drives the price of S197's into the basement so that I can get my hands on one of the last retro-styled ponies and hopefully one with a somewhat special badge.
Of course, if Ford said, "Here, have one of the first 2014 and a half's," I'd be happier than a pig in shit smoking crack cocaine named Rob Ford.
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> 6shelBfan6
12/05/2013 at 13:29 |
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Amen.
Look to Top Gear, and Jeremy Clarkson driving a GT500 through Europe. People loved it. They passed by Porsches and virtually everything German, turned a bored and blind eye to the Italian supercars and snapped as many pictures of that American beast as possible.
The problem with Europeans is they're afraid to admit they like anything from the Colonies while simultaneously insisting we Colonials are barbarians for not buying into their idea of what is good, cool and proper.
And that's one of my problems with this new Mustang. It's been changed to meet a wider appeal... particularly in E-U-Rope. Having said that, making the car more appealing to a wide audience is what saved the Mustang back in '74. If this car has the same impact on European customers, I'd call it a win.
And I'm coming around, slowly taking in the details and accepting the move towards brand language.
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> 6shelBfan6
12/05/2013 at 13:31 |
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Preaching to the choir, brother.
I've driven both.
The motivation for the six would be lower initial cost and the move to FI right away.
The motivation for the eight would be that straight N/A power out of the box.
I really, really like both options.
V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me!
> Lets Just Drive
12/05/2013 at 13:35 |
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Put a blower on it.
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oldirtybootz
> 6shelBfan6
12/05/2013 at 15:12 |
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Exsctly. They were very handsome cars, especially when the 4th gen Camaros looked like rounded off 3rd gens(to be fair, I do like F-bodys).
Also, the SVT Cobra name means so much more to me than Shelby GT500 ever will. I respect the original Shelby Mustangs even if I prefer ths Bosses and Mach 1, but the name doesn't resonate with me like SVT Cobra does.
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oldirtybootz
> Lets Just Drive
12/05/2013 at 15:22 |
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I had a cheapo brand, 1/64 scale Mustang II notchback when I was little and I'm fairly sure its the reason that I love the II. They can be made into very badass rides, I'll never understand the blind hatred for them.
There isn't a single Mustang I would kick out of my driveway. Before I bought my Focus, I almost got a very clean 2004 V6 Auto just because Mustang. I don't care how "generic" people think Mustangs are, to me that's part of the appeal. It's not some rare, unobtainable vehicle but something I can actually own. Like you said, people love to just hate on Mustangs.